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Post by Robert on Dec 5, 2003 20:17:27 GMT -5
yeah for what I believe in, I actually put up a good argument ;D.
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Post by Mr. Hendrickson™ on Dec 6, 2003 16:55:16 GMT -5
So they like the same sex. Who cares about the "story books?!" that have opposite sex marraiges. its stupid jsut because they like the same sex doesn't mean they should be treated differently, its like saying BLACK PEOPLE CANT GET MARRIED. just with day people instead. Very well put!
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Post by Daemon Rose on Dec 7, 2003 13:59:54 GMT -5
No I do not will I ever support gay marriage men or women.
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Post by Fozzy-Sisu on Dec 10, 2003 0:48:26 GMT -5
Not well put. In fact, it's quite the opposite. In our decaying soceity, people have a hard time seeing what is right and what is wrong. Too often, we find ourselves saying, "just as long as it doesn't affect me." You know what, one day it will. You see, you as a human have one task you must accomplish, produce offspring. To prevent many idiots from having children, marriage is often supported. It takes two responsible people of good moral fibre to get married and have a family. What is it with gays? Can't you just be someone's friend. Is all you need to do is fornicate?! There's much more to life than just that! Go read a book to orphans or something, rather than 'tossing Juan's salad.' It's not fine. It's not attractive. It is disgusting. It is the Church that has the final say. It is the Church's institution. The government cannot infringe on that, no matter how many green, bleeding-heart punks have to say about that! NEXT!
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Post by Mr. Hendrickson™ on Dec 10, 2003 16:05:46 GMT -5
Wow Brandon thats really long. lol. But everything you said is correct and I do agree with that.
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Post by Fozzy-Sisu on Dec 10, 2003 20:16:59 GMT -5
Now that's: "well put".
Speaker 1: I like hotdogs cooked on the grill.
Speaker 2: Well put.
See in the example above? Doesn't make sense. It's a half-assed response in a half-assed statement.
Lance, you know me, I don't fuck around the the bullshit. Straight to the point.
Can't take the heat?! Get the fuck out of the kitchen.
Who's next?!
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Post by Mr. Hendrickson™ on Dec 11, 2003 17:11:01 GMT -5
Not well put. In fact, it's quite the opposite. In our decaying soceity, people have a hard time seeing what is right and what is wrong. Too often, we find ourselves saying, "just as long as it doesn't affect me." You know what, one day it will. You see, you as a human have one task you must accomplish, produce offspring. To prevent many idiots from having children, marriage is often supported. It takes two responsible people of good moral fibre to get married and have a family. What is it with gays? Can't you just be someone's friend. Is all you need to do is fornicate?! There's much more to life than just that! Go read a book to orphans or something, rather than 'tossing Juan's salad.' It's not fine. It's not attractive. It is disgusting. It is the Church that has the final say. It is the Church's institution. The government cannot infringe on that, no matter how many green, bleeding-heart punks have to say about that! NEXT! Statement #1: I have to say you are correct on the point that people dont see the whole specrtum of things. When they say 'As long as they dont bother me' what does it say about them. They dont support the gays but yet they dont care to say anything against it. Statement #2: Although it does take two responsible people to have a decent family you dont necessarily have to be married. Waht I dont understand is you are saying you should be married to have offspring. And then sometimes you say you dont agree with the great book. But isnt it said that you should be married to have sex or offspring. Anyways I am saying you should have a steady relationship before having a child cause it can make or break a relationship. It definately broke mine. Statement #3: I want to say you are correct. You dont need to have sex with everyone and everything with two legs and a hole. You should be friends and hell if you want to do your own race do it in your home not in public. I mean its just wrong. And wanting us to care if you fucking get married is stupid. I dont give a shit about you or your faggot boyfriend. Satement #4: Although many people dont care about women but honestlyu hates the thought of male and male marriage needs to think. If you hate one hate both. You cant be a hyprocrite because you think woman on woman is hot. It is hot but to male on male people they think it is too..
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Post by LostSunrise on Dec 11, 2003 19:41:44 GMT -5
Who gives a fuck about the church. I have no formal religion, and the church doesn't matter to me. Love is not the church's to dictate, and if someone loves another person, nothing can take that away.
If the two people don't want to marry, then they can just be lovers/boyfriends/girlfriends. If they do want to marry and live their lives together and/or raise kids, they should be able to do that to. Not you, nor anyone else, should be able to decide what they do in their life. It's their life and a free world!
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Post by Mr. Hendrickson™ on Dec 11, 2003 21:12:58 GMT -5
I dont care about the church either but to be legally wed and be legally able to adopt a child into a family you need to be married. I think Lesbian/Gay couples should never be allowed to adopt nor have children in their custody. It is demeaning and damaging to the children. I dont see a reason why any agencie would be dumb enough to let a gay couple have children when we all know two men are not able to have a child. Its physically and ethically immoral. So no I dont support gay couples to have children or wed
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Post by Fozzy-Sisu on Dec 12, 2003 11:09:22 GMT -5
Who gives a fuck about the church. I have no formal religion, and the church doesn't matter to me. Love is not the church's to dictate, and if someone loves another person, nothing can take that away. Other than the legal aspect of marriage, the religious implicantions are very simple indeed. The institution of marriage was instituted by God and the Church. True, the Church cannot dicate love, but it can dicate what happens inside of it's walls. When being married, if you decide to split, the process is long and drawn out and makes you think what you really want. When you're in a serious relationship, there isn't much holding you back if things get sticky. For the record: there is no such thing as a free world. It's a fairy tale immature people cling to. You are not special and will not affect the world in any manner. None of us will. So, fall in line solider, your numbers up.
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Post by LostSunrise on Dec 13, 2003 12:15:47 GMT -5
Marriage has become secular now. It is just a service. Noone cares about the religious significane of it anymore - because they dont care!! God has even become secular now. It astounds me. People say, "God bless America" and America is supposed to be a secular state. God has no meaning anymore!
Then don't get married in a church. Many people get married outside.
And it is a free world. Your delusions matter not. I can choose to do what I want, and lead my life as I want. There may be some consequences because of my actions, but if I am willing to accept them, I can do whatever. And those consequences are there to ensure the safety of the greatest number of people.
I can choose my profession when I graduate from college. This isn't Soviet Russia! It is a free world.
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Post by Dale The Great! on Dec 13, 2003 12:20:29 GMT -5
I don't mind it aslong as they dont do anything uncalled for in public if there guys, but girls on the other hand....
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Post by Fozzy-Sisu on Dec 13, 2003 16:19:49 GMT -5
Marriage has become secular now. It is just a service. Noone cares about the religious significane of it anymore - because they dont care!! God has even become secular now. It astounds me. People say, "God bless America" and America is supposed to be a secular state. God has no meaning anymore! Just because society decays and says it's ok to do something, it's not. Just because you signify red means go, doesn't make it right.
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Post by Poetic Tyrant on Dec 13, 2003 16:58:25 GMT -5
Well, I'm new here, directed by a fellow poster to the site upon hearing of my affinity for such, and I saw this thread. I figured it would be a nice one to wet my pallate, so here I go.
I would like to begin by asking everyone on this board something. What right do you feel you have to dictate to another person what is right and wrong in their moral lives? By clinging to the ideals of a book that gives you an easy way out of actually questioning your life honestly and approaching your problems with no safety net in an effort to actually learn something? Well, I question the very relevance of answering a question such as this by people who aren't willing to debate the issue as opposed to jumping behind "Jesus says..." for everything that they can't sufficiently explain to themselves.
Now, on to that other guy. What's his name... lost sunrise. Now, correct me if I'm wrong (and by all means, do it if you wish), but the last time I checked, the government is no better than the "religions" that you say that you don't hold to. Let me explain so you can understand me in my vast, vast, vast intellectual superiority over yourself: Firstly the government itself is based off of the same kind of system of imposing a moral right and wrong upon a mass of people in order to keep them in order for the "greater good" that you speak of. Which is the exact same thing that religion does. So, in a sense, you're kind of like a very intellectually and emotionally underdeveloped sub-species of man who has an idea but is too innane to properly word it. And I understand, I'm here to help. First of all, let me ask you something: why does the fact that it's not technically communist russia mean that we're automatically free? Have you ever tried to run a small business out of your home that was too small to garner much notice by the irs and that you were simply using to support yourself during retirement because the bottom fell out of your retirement stock and social security just isn't cutting it? To try and actually make bills? And then having the irs find out and audit your ass for not paying taxes on the business and sending you on the street in order to sell your house for the lost taxes? You saying that this is a free country that we live in does nothing but tell me that you've had a pretty clean cut, easy type of existence and I praise you for that. I wish that I had led an existence that would leave me naive enough to believe that I actually mattered in the long scheme of things or that anything that I have to say matters at all. Because we're America right? You think that makes you free? Think about this: In America, the politician has been turned into the scum of society. You know why? Because America is the place that proves that no amount of guarantees of freedom gives you any protection from oppression or tyrranny. Kropotsky said that. But I'm sure you know that, right? Being the sexy college stud that you are. With your obvious knowledge of socio-economic structure that you MUST have if you can make such claims that we live in a free society and that you can do whatever you want when you're out of college. Ok, get an associates in creative writing and go apply for a residency as a brain surgeon. Go right ahead. Or, even then, be able to pay for the college to become that brain surgeon unless you're rich in the first place. In this country, your freedom:money ratio does not vary, but rises and falls equally. You live in a country where your morality and what you call right and wrong is dictated to you by the lowest percent of the population which happen to be the richest percent of the population. No, I'm not some pissed off anarchist trying to say down with america or anything like that, I'm just a realist trying to beat into your belligerant retarded skull that you are completely naive about your beliefs concerning who and what you are in this world or even in this country. Grow up, you petty little punk, and open up your eyes. Be honest with yourself. Try. I know it's hard, but the quickest way for you to see the light, is if you start by pulling your head out of your ass.
I know this thread was about gay marriages and I kind of went off there, but this guy's a complete idiot. I'm too tired now to continue on with proving him wrong and I apologize to any actual intelligent people on this board that find my post a bit confusing in its wording, as I've gotten about 4 hrs. of sleep in the past three days in total and I really don't have the energy or the clarity of mind to express as I wish.
As for the gays: I agree with gay marriage. Let fags be fags, niggers be niggers, chinks be chinks, and stupid overprivaleged white pieces of honkey shit be stupid overprivaleged white pieces of honkey shit.
I'm smarter than every single one of you on here, and you all know it now. Bow down, lick between my toes, and feed me. Grapes. No seeds though. For every seed I find... I shall KILL you. And Lost Sunrise's avatar beeotch is now mine. So hand her over. Or I'll take her by force.
God damn it, I'm sexy... and awesome. And totally cool.
--- Poetic Tyrant (aka: SexyPantsMcLeod)
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Post by Dale The Great! on Dec 13, 2003 17:19:19 GMT -5
P.S I got dared to post this
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